I wanted to love these, but there are issues. The fabric is very comfortable and the pants are lightweight, which I love. Unfortunately, the legs are too short. Much shorter than the usual fit of Chefwear’s medium size pants. I know that jogger style pants are generally shorter than standard fit pants, but every time I bend over in these they threaten to give me “plumbers butt”. If I tie the drawstrings the pants ride up at the ankles. For the record, I’m 5’9”, average build, so it’s not like I’m overly tall or large. In any case, it’s not worth the cost of returning the pants. I’ll either give them to someone tiny, or toss them. They don’t work for me.